Curse

Why_Me · Dec 20, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

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Originally Posted by Koning

BUT, annoying thing is not being able to take down monks. How uber sliver armor is, it alone cannot take down groups with monks (if you have less than 5 enemies in a group, which is most of the time). I think this build might need some more damage. I tried aftershock, but even than you don't do enough damage to outdamage them.

As long as there is only one monk, it really isn't that hard. The main thing to remember is that serpents quickness affects sliver armor too (see the new section labeled serpents quickness under the usage section), and it can be maintained a majority of the time. The main problem is the warriors, who have 100+ armor and are the priority of sliver armor. Once they're down its fine. Another trick is to poison everyone and confuse the monks on who to heal.

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Also, taking down the skeletal groups with the bonds and berserkers with wildblow is annoying, because the beserkers remove your serpent quickness with wildblow (even with stoneflesh aura) so you have to be lucky that sliver armor targets the ether breaker or ice hand in that group and takes it down before obsidian flesh ends.

Yes, that could work. Another option is to enter battle in the storm chaser stage (if they strip that it's fine) and kill them with sliver armor before you need to use serpents quickness again.

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Didn't came very far because I couldn't outdamage the smoke walker monks (had a group of 2 smoke walkers, 1 hydra, 3 skales). 2nd try I decided to overaggro and I had like 6+ skales, 5+ hydras and 3 smoke walkers on me. Tanking them is easy, with armor of earth + stoneflesh aura on you only take 0 dmg (the inferno from hydras is only 9 dmg), and with an aggro that big sliver splites through the enemies, but after i killed some the monks were still standing

The idea of the forest is to aggro as many as you can and kill as many as you can. Like you said, with armor of earth+stoneflesh tanking is easy, and I agree the the damage is the hard part. The trick is to keep aggroing more and to never try to kill everything in the group. Eventually you will get to the tower of strength and hopefully be able to solo that too.

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Other than that, I'd like to know how far you can get in the forest, cause I think the spiders can be very annoying with their interrupts (stoneflesh 2 sec cast )

Yeah. I managed to kill a group of spiders or two using the previous factions/prophecies only build, using conflag. Using well timed stone daggers it worked for a little while until they interrupted obsidian flesh and I lost kinetic.

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Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade

I think as long as you can actually *get* to the forest, you'll be fine. From what I've read (unless they've "fixed" this) you'll be fine as long as you don't have caster weapons...apparently that's how the AI recognizes what is and isn't a caster.

Would that apply to savage shot? With the new build I attempted the forest, and failed at the spiders. I'm not sure what I was using, galigord's staff or this longbow of enchanting I have. I'll see if I could try again.

Riceboi · Dec 20, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

A trick my buddy KCP use to do back in the day was to use malstorm to keep the monks from healing. I'm not sure if this would work good anymore, but it's worth a shot. Someone try it. lol

Koning · Dec 20, 2006, 09:05 AM // 09:05

hmm, I don't know if the monks would run away from that. Only thing to get to know that is to try I guess, like you said. Then again, 25 energy is a bit much. But if it works, you could definatly take on more groups in FoW.

Oh, and if it's true that spiders only interrupt wielders of caster weapons, that would be great! I was wielding a +5e 20% ench weapon anyway but I haven't tried to take on spiders. (The first time I tried this build I went to the aviacara outside droks wielding the totem axe + shield, but they used savage slash on me so I don't know if spiders do this also).

kanadimmy · Jan 05, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Looks good, but ill check the videos first and then try this if it looks easy

Good work!

Rand \,,/ · Jan 13, 2007, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by Koning

hmm, I don't know if the monks would run away from that. Only thing to get to know that is to try I guess, like you said. Then again, 25 energy is a bit much. But if it works, you could definatly take on more groups in FoW.

Oh, and if it's true that spiders only interrupt wielders of caster weapons, that would be great! I was wielding a +5e 20% ench weapon anyway but I haven't tried to take on spiders. (The first time I tried this build I went to the aviacara outside droks wielding the totem axe + shield, but they used savage slash on me so I don't know if spiders do this also).

I think that spiders will use savage shot even if you are not wielding caster weapons BECAUSE while farming spiders at the spider cave with my assassin i saw them many times trying to interrupt my Shadow Form...so i think that it doesn't matter what weapon you use,they will still try to interrupt you =P

Crusheer · Feb 02, 2007, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Hey, i bought NF yesterday and i wanna try this. What skills should i use? (have NF + Proph only)

Kcp · Feb 02, 2007, 09:50 AM // 09:50

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Originally Posted by Rand \,,/

I think that spiders will use savage shot even if you are not wielding caster weapons BECAUSE while farming spiders at the spider cave with my assassin i saw them many times trying to interrupt my Shadow Form...so i think that it doesn't matter what weapon you use,they will still try to interrupt you =P

^ correct

Same goes for rock borer worms, it doesn't matter if you have a melee weapon/shield equipped, if you attempt to cast a spell they will try to interrupt it.

Coloneh · Feb 03, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by Crusheer

Hey, i bought NF yesterday and i wanna try this. What skills should i use? (have NF + Proph only)

where do i start to point out what is wrong with this post?

Crusheer · Feb 03, 2007, 09:41 AM // 09:41

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

where do i start to point out what is wrong with this post?

Well the main dmg skill called Sliver Armor is in factions....

Aaah, forgot it.

Coloneh · Feb 03, 2007, 05:59 PM // 17:59

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Originally Posted by Crusheer

Well the main dmg skill called Sliver Armor is in factions....

Aaah, forgot it.

what i was saying was that the build pretty obviously points out what you need, but i forgot sliver was factions. you would have a hard time getting the damage you need without it.

Coloneh · Feb 03, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

ok. im having problems

i get into FoW and start tanking the first grop of shadow army(to the right) but the shadow beast always runs straight to the eternal guy, and if i go over to him o try to kill him with sliver armor the warrior starts attacking the eternal guy to. eventually he dies and it sends me back to ToA. what am i doing wrong?

Vapor_Fighter · Feb 03, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04

Very nice now im mad that i deleted my ele(even though he was only lvl 7

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Why_Me · Feb 03, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

i get into FoW and start tanking the first grop of shadow army(to the right) but the shadow beast always runs straight to the eternal guy, and if i go over to him o try to kill him with sliver armor the warrior starts attacking the eternal guy to. eventually he dies and it sends me back to ToA. what am i doing wrong?

Go forward from where you start, make a right, and aggro them from an angle, like in the video. Rastigan should NEVER be in your aggro circle when you aggro the enemies.

Coloneh · Feb 04, 2007, 06:23 AM // 06:23

alright, i wasnt doing that. sounds like a perfectly logical solution that i probably should have realized. thanks.

vampireX · Feb 07, 2007, 05:22 AM // 05:22

Anyone else takin a lot of damage from the hydras' inferno spell? i got stoneflesh+ob. armor+stone striker(for geomancer armor) and am still takin like 64 damage from each inferno.

Koning · Feb 07, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

I take like 9 dmg with armor of earth + stoneflesh+obs flesh (i have tempest armor)

Why_Me · Feb 07, 2007, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Without armor of earth they deal huge amounts of damage and unguent must be kept up constantly, however with armor of earth its not threat.

Also, now that they removed evasion, griffons sweep from the shadow warriors will knock you down with sliver armor however its no serious threat.

Baaaa Ha ha ha... · Feb 11, 2007, 05:44 PM // 17:44

Hmmm...I'm lacking the skill Serpent's Quickness. Is there any sort of skill that could replace it? Other than that I can make this build, which looks really good btw

Koning · Feb 11, 2007, 06:13 PM // 18:13

No. (maybe quickening zephyr but enemies would destroy it I think)

Coloneh · Feb 11, 2007, 08:28 PM // 20:28

no, serpent's is one of the 2 absolutely vital skills,